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The CUInsight Network podcast: Advocacy – DCUC & Atlas Advocacy

Featuring Jason Stverak, Chief Advocacy Officer at Defense Credit Union Council, and Elizabeth Eurgubian, Government Relations and Advocacy Consultant at Atlas Advocacy

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“Every employee, from the C-suite to the teller, has a role in advocacy.” – Jason Stverak 

Thank you for tuning in to The CUInsight Network, with your host, Robbie Young, Vice President of Strategic Growth at CUInsight. In The CUInsight Network, we take a deeper dive with the thought leaders who support the credit union community. We discuss issues and challenges facing credit unions and identify best practices to learn and grow together.

My guests on today’s show are returning guest Jason Stverak, Chief Advocacy Officer at Defense Credit Union Council, and Elizabeth Eurgubian, Government Relations and Advocacy Consultant at Atlas Advocacy. They both join me for this episode for a conversation that cuts right to the heart of what credit unions need most right now: stronger advocacy, louder storytelling, and a clearer understanding of what sets us apart!

In our conversation, Elizabeth opens with something that she has witnessed from both sides of the table: policymakers are brilliant with statutes and frameworks, but they often have little sense of what day-to-day life looks like inside a credit union. She talks about the power of real-world examples and cautions that if we’re not bringing those stories forward, we’re leaving influence on the table.

Jason also jumps in with the compelling argument that advocacy isn’t a job title; it’s everybody—teller to CEO—every interaction with a member, every community touchpoint, every small moment of goodwill becomes part of what reaches Congress. He shares some incredible behind-the-scenes stories from the recent government shutdown and how lawmakers were reaching out because they’d noticed credit unions stepping up while others hesitated.

As we wrap up the episode, Elizabeth closes by previewing what’s coming from the NCUA in the year ahead—such as stablecoin and digital-asset rulemaking under the GENIUS Act, a much needed regulatory clean-up, and increased vigilance around cybersecurity. She also challenges all of us to think several years ahead about the skills we’ll need, not the ones that we’ve always relied on, as necessary skillsets are always evolving with the times. I hope that you enjoy my conversation with Jason and Elizabeth!

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Previous episode mentioned: #93
Shout-out: NCUA
Shout-out: Joe Biden
Shout-out: Todd M. Harper
Place mentioned: Washington DC
Place mentioned: Capitol Hill
Shout-out: U.S. Congress
Place mentioned: North Dakota
Place mentioned: Minot Air Force Base
Shout-out: U.S. Senate
Shout-out: Costco
Shout-out: House Committee on Energy and Commerce
Shout-out: House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
Shout-out: Keesler Federal Credit Union
Shout-out: Members 1st Federal Credit Union
Place mentioned: Pennsylvania
Shout-out: Tinker Federal Credit Union
Place mentioned: Oklahoma
Shout-out: Chase Bank
Shout-out: Bank of America
Shout-out: Veterans Member Business Loan Act
Shout-out: GENIUS Act
Shout-out: Chairman Hauptman

[1:09] – Elizabeth reveals how real-world examples genuinely shape her regulatory decisions far more than abstract discussions on policy.
[4:37] – Jason argues that every credit union employee contributes to advocacy because lawmakers tend to respond most to their own communities.
[6:19] – Inviting lawmakers into our branches helps them grasp our community impact better than anything else.
[9:21] – Elizabeth asserts that paying dues isn’t enough; she still has to actively engage in advocacy and communication.
[11:49] – Elizabeth gives an example of how necessary skillsets are always changing with time.
[14:08] – Jason agrees that it’s important for us to tell our stories.
[16:07] – Jason wants Congress to see how consistently credit unions showed up when other institutions stayed quiet.
[19:05] – Jason points out how the lending cap blocks us from helping longtime veteran members who need modest business capital.
[21:25] – Credit unions deserve equal treatment so that we can support members throughout their entire financial journeys.
[23:27] – Elizabeth argues that credit unions need to engage regulators on digital assets, faster payments, regulatory relief, and rising cyber threats.
[26:50] – Jason adds that smaller credit unions need to speak up, because their survival and smart regulation sustain the entire movement.